Exploring Diets for MS Management

[Gracer]

Hi jerryregarding gas I am sure you still eat some starch containing products (if you try to quit glutene, then you must be on rice/beans/potatoes, I believe, or other starch reach food) - but starch is polysaccharide and in the guts it is desintegrated down to olygosacharides and monosacharides on which your gut flora can proliferate. Another good source of gas is proteine (and in that case gas is reach in hydrohen sulphite, which does not make life better). But you can not exclude ALL products from the ration, so looks like you need a real scientific approach...Did you told to any medical nutritionist? Because you can have many common ideas (including suspected gluten intolerance) but instead just make things worse with weird diets.On the other side I must admit that those troubles are very stubborn to treat and doctros might also have very veird ideas about how to treat your guts but at least maybe you might go through well thought program to determine what real food intolerances you have (including lactose one which is quite frequent in the middle and southern Europe) - however not so total as in China )) )

 

[jerryTwo]

I did some home test for intolerances from blood and I wasn't really intolerant to anything, but I think something is making my gut miserable for so many years... It all happened after I poisioned from old toilet hoses when we made a new bathroom. I was so much poisioned I thought I will be dead by evening. I throw up every 5 minutes and I had wated from my back every 5 minutes. I has such nausea I could not stand up but could only crawl on my knees. It lasted for 12 hours. 3 months later I got chronic stomac/colon problems. Now they are not that bad but they flair from time to time and the fasting was not a good idea for me.No, I don't eat potatoes now. I use Montignac diet now: if you want to take a look at what this is.I eat a lot of nuts now, dry fruits etc.

 

[Gracer]

dry fruits might be enought for flatulence (raisins, dry apricots etc.), also food rich for fiber causes the same effect I love dried apricots but can not eat more than 4 pieces once in few month - othervise I have severe gas troubles and immediate diarrohea...it is so sad.because I love them as I said... Same for prunes I can eat only ginger sweats without any noticeable bad consequences, but they contain a hell of sugar...

 

[jerryTwo]

Well, at the end of the day there is no food I can eat and feel ok

 

[Gracer]

I think it is just the matter of amount ))really feel sad that you have troubles in that important part of the body. food is a great pleasure...

 

[jerryTwo]

Thanx. If that would be the only part of body I would have problems, it would not be so bad

 

[BFSDiner]

Nuts and dry fruits cause crazy flatulence. I can't eat trail mix without having enough gas to power a nuclear submarine. Raisins and dried fruits like that are almost pure fiber and fiber causes flatulence.Jerry what happens if you eat chicken breast and stir fry veggies with nothing on it?Still problems? Thats my safest meal. Zero issues after.Interesting to see the intestinal tie once again. Just like jessica1 - food sets him off. ChauBao, me, ...

 

[WindyCityGentleman]

. This look very similar to what burger has, if not the same.

 

[jerryTwo]

In fact I did consult the specialist for alergies. She told me food can not be so strong alergen to make bodywide twitching. She has at least never heard someone twitching because of food intolerances. She told me problems are usually milder and constrained to intestines problems, skin problems etc. not nerve problems.

 

[zeustopple]

Juicing does have its nutritional benefits, more-so in a world today were many lack essential vitamins thanks to our fast food nation. I myself was taking B-12 a while back when I had no idea what was going on with my fassics, and I did notice some improvement. Same goes with vitamin D, which I now take 1,000 I.U.'s a day, I notice alot less fatigue.

 

[GiGiGee]

Finally I find a place with people who can understand me... it has been a two years and a half nightmare... I,ve tried many things... but no vitamin D or juice... I'm gonna try with all the effort of my heart and faith... Fabiola

 

[TwitchyAz]

juicing has been one of the few things that has actually helped me big time....if you guys aren't doing it you are missing out.I would follow TwitchBFSs recommendations of which veggies\fruits to use and avoid.

 

[GiGiGee]

But please tell me one many juices per day or how many times per day ??

 

[BFSDiner]

This is really a "whole-istic" approach of calming your body, your nerves, your muscles ... Learning what things promote inflammation in your body is, I think, key to figuring out what to avoid, and begin to manage this condition. Like I have said many times - when I finally started to identify some "cause and effect" that was repeatable with BFS - i finally realized how I could put together a regimen that would help me. Juicing doesnt stop twitching. At least not by itself. But it does drastic things to calm inflammation and saturate your tissues with necessary phytonutrients that aid in proper cellular functions. Over time (weeks), I believe it does play a role. But juicing by itself is nowhere near enough. I can have emotional stress and juice like crazy - and still twitch like crazy. I can be completely calm emotionally, juice like crazy, and if I don't have regular intervals of whole body resistance training - the muscle pains, nerve jabbing, joint pains, tendon aches, muscle spacicity, etc will come back with a vengeance. I can be juicing daily, exercising once every 4 days, and emotionally calm, but still need my Dead Sea salt baths to saturate my muscles and provide whatever it is they provide for calming, relaxing of nerve endings, electrolyte replacement (god knows what). I need my gatorade daily ... for whatever reason. I need 4 full days of rest between workouts in order to see benefit (as opposed to increased fatigue) from exercising. Im learning (my new discovery for the week) that I have to keep up with my whole regimen, or the other parts of the regimen don't do a d*mn thing. I often think about this because I know some people here are trying one thing. (juicing) or trying another thing (dead sea salt baths) .... and then probably will quit because it did nothing. For me .... i need to do everything. Consistently. Or nothing works.Google anti inflammatory vegetables - to answer the question posed above by Fabiola.

 

[GiGiGee]

Thanks, TwitchBFS... Conclusion: I need more discipline but most of all I need to calm my mind, my emotional stress is the big problem. Many people around me has insisted: if you don't calm your mind your body won't react. I'm trying to calm my mind with some meditation and chi kung exercises. So, I will combine these methods with the other things you suggested (juicing, dead sea salt baths, and some light exercises) + acupuncture. I need to have faith in myself and in my body, I believe that we can do it!! The good thing of all this mess is that I'm learning more about myself, about my body and my thoughts, I just need to be patient and persistent.Just a question... I was swimming twice a week like 40 minutes aproximately and not so hard... do you think is a good exercise or is too hard for the twitch alleviation objective??Thanks again for replying so fast )