Twitching in Calves: A Concern?

Hi There,3 Months ago I noticed some bizarre twitching in my calfs and arches of feet. To my knowledge, I'd never noticed this before (but maybe it had been going on for much longer?). Anyway, after consulting with Dr Google, it became clear the problem was serious. Dr Google has previously diagnosed me with Bowel Cancer, Pancreatic Cancer, Possible case of CJD and Hemochromatosis. Anyway, this warrants my trip to the GP.I explain to the GP about my concerns, and he checks out my legs. After putting me face down on the couch, my calfs and ankles are twitching like a crack addict with 240 volts up his ass. Now I'm hoping Dr will tell me everything is fine, and send me on my way with some pills. But No, he decides to refer me to a neuro. This is unexpected, and alarm bells start to trigger. He tells me twitching in 2 limbs is a deciding factor in refering to a Nuero. I then drop the bomb "Doc, could this be ***". He tells me its highly unlikely, and he doesnt suspect this. So I now have to wait 2 months until my Neuro appointment is available (this is the NHS, and things always take time). In the meantime I'm driving myself crazy with worry, constantly checking for twitches in my legs, and trawling through Google looking for new symptoms. Google really is the lifeblood of a hyperchondriac, specially with the Iphone (where you can self diagnose as you wonder around the planet). Enough to say, I had scared myself sh**less within a few days after the docs referal.I then decided I needed to keep testing the strength of my legs and arms, after reading Dr Google terror tales of Atrophy and Weakness. So I decided to join British Military Fitness. This was interesting . . .I have never experienced such hard physical training in all my life, Push-Ups, Squat Thrusts, Running, Situps. You name it, they will make you do it. The training is so hard, that you can barely walk afterwards. But I've managed to survive the training sessions so far, so this was a small light in my dark world. If I can do this, there can't be too much wrong with me?After waiting 2 months for a referral, I decided to go private. The whole process was taking way too long, and I'd convinced myself time was of the essence. Within a week I had an appointment with a Senior Neuro based in Coventry. I explained the problem, and he didn’t seem concerned (which was nice). He did a full physical exam (as I’m standing in my underpants), and tested all my reflexes and strength. He has a brief look at my twitching calfs, but doesn’t seem concerned at all. He tells me everything is fine, and my twitches are Benign. (I'm still not convinced about this, I mean what does a neuro with 20 years experience know?). So he offers me an EMG test to give me re-assurance, he explains it's not for his benefit as he knows its BFS. Anyway, I take this wonderful offer of an EMG (Later to find I’m £300 out of pocket!!).So after waiting 4 weeks, I get the EMG test. The guy starts off with Nerve tests, involving sticky pads. He proceeds to electrocute me slowly and painfully. We then move onto the needles, which he sticks into my legs and arms (at what seem to be set intervals). I then have to flex my muscles, and let them relax. This goes on for 30 minutes, and he says everything is OK. He will send the results to my Nuero for my next appointment.At the next appointment, Nuero gives me the news. The EMG is totally clear, No Fibs, Fasciculation’s etc. He tells me to stop worrying, and now get on with my life. The physical exam and EMG are clear, so no reason to worry anymore. I ask him how the test can possibly miss my Fasiculations? These are like a family of moles in my legs, a blind man could see these, so how can uba technology miss them? He explains that the EMG only picks up denervation, and not always the twitching?So my question for you guys are (If you’ve read this far).1. The EMG guy didn’t stick a needle into the back of my calf (where most twitching occurs). He stuck it into the sides. Is there any chance he’s missed anything? (I know this sounds like Hypochondriac stuff, but need some re-assurance please)2. My NHS appointment has now come through finally. Should I cancel this, as I’ve already had EMG and consultancy. I keep thinking of getting a 2nd opinion, but don’t want to become Mr 6 EMG, 5 Neuro visit craziness. Should I draw a line under it?Many Thanks!!!
 
Paul,forget it mate. Let someone who may need that appointment have it and you move on and start to live life. I'm a six monther, I really laughed at your write up (laughter is the best medicine, especially at someone else's expense :D) :D) ) I'm back to bike riding and enjoying life. Yep I still get the moles come out and visit me after exercise, but the family seem to be getting smaller! My BFS does have some pain with it as well but the good news is that is receding (Unlike my hair!!).The Neuro really has the best advice, are you going to stress yourself worrying about a condition that you haven't got and refuse to believe a person with more than 20 years in Neuro science. Rejoice and enjoy the fact your healthy but have a pain in the ass condition that is BENIGN.Take care mate and once again thanks for the laugh :D)
 
Paul, I agree with peter. I am a six monther as well, and have no where near the testing you have had done. The experts have given you the all clear. So best to try and move on. BFS is not easy to allow into your life, but not to accept it, is an even harder quest. It will take time ( tell me about it) but time is the heeler. I still freak out, but generally I try and 'ignore' ( not easy) as much as I can, ( difficult when you get new symptoms!) and try not to let it interfere with enjoying my life. I have been down the same road you are going down my friend ( just a little furthur along)...the truth...I does get 'better'!cheersRodger
 
Hello and welcome,Your experience is very similar to mine: same time frame, same twitches, same long wait for neuro (but in am in the US), same results. Bummer for the wait. And like you, I too was amazed that my EMG did not pick up any fasciculations. But this is very good since I think that if one had A word disease, the EMG would invoke fasciculations. (if this is wrong, pls someone out there correct me).Regarding your questions; I could be wrong, but the way I understand is that one needle in a muscle is enough too see anything in that muscle, so where ever they stuck your calf really doesn't matter, as long as the neuro pivoted the needle when it was in your muscle, and of course had you flex your muscle as well, which I am sure your experienced neuro did. I'd keep your appointment only if you feel you need more reassurance, otherwise keep us posted here, and let us know when you pass your milestones: six months and one year. Stories like those with no A word give people like me (4 months now) lots of encouragement.
 
Hi All,Many thanks for the quick replys, and I'm glad I raised a smile or two ;)I'll cancel the second neuro appointment tomorrow, and get on with things. So cheers for all the advice, and words of wisdom.
 
PaulExcellent post, your story is exactly the same as mine, even down to the neuro stating EMG was for my benefit not his. My EMG showed fasciculation potentials which is normal, as is not finding fascics. I've twitched like a crack addict, as you put it for over two years now. You've had a BFS diagnosis now try to forget about the twitching (easier said than done I know) and take life a little easier. No more EMG's required.Kind regardsDav
 
Hi PaulI have been twitching crazily for 21 months now and also had one not quite so normal EMG but, like RainDog, I am still fine otherwise. Try not to worry - you will be fine, just like the rest of us here. Thought you'd be interested to know however that there is another longstanding twitcher (not of the bird watching variety!) who lives in Coventry. His username is PlayfulPants.Regards from NZSimon
 
A real big thanks to all you guys, its great to meet other people and learn from your experiences! Seems the internet can be a curse (Dr Google) and a blessing (this site), so I'm real grateful for all your replies.
 
Hello, I'm fairly new to all of this. I noticed the twitching in my calves about three months ago after a run. It's definitely worse after a run and sometimes looks like there's something alive under my skin. At first I found it intriguing and fascinating but was not overly concerned. I'm still not too concerned but after researching it I see a lot of the people who post here are very concerned so I guess maybe I should have it checked out. Sometimes when I run my calves feel very tight and tired and I assume it could be because the muscles are continuously firing even when I'm resting? So far no pain from the twitching so that's good... I did notice twitching in my thigh last night after a run so maybe it's spreading? I've always had the occasional eye twitch or twitches in other muscles but nothing like the calves. How concerned should I be about all of this?Jon
 
Not at all concerned. A calf twitch means nothing. That's like going into the doctor and saying you have a cold. If you have actual weakness (falling down, inability to walk), then maybe you would be concerned. But as for twitching and fatigue alone? Forget it. They mean nothing. Same as an eyelid twitch.
 
If calf twitching means nothing then why are so many people on here talking about it like it's something? Why are they going to the Dr. to be checked for ALS etc. when they don't seem to be showing any other signs other than twitching?
 
Because this isn't a BFS site, it is a health anxiety site. :D) Trust me, if people just had twitching, and no access to the internet, there would be no need for bfsforum.com. Twitching in and of itself means nothing. I defy one doctor on the face of this earth to refute that.
 
Thanks everyone - this was a funny post. I didn't see it in June. I needed a laugh today.And why are people so concerned with twitching? I have to at least partially agree with Mario. It is our little corner of mass hysteria - a crowd sort of phenomena fueled by internet searches and jumping to conclusions as this initial post from Paul has pointed out. Before the internet we'd be worried about falling off the flat earth or something.
 
Hi guys,Well its been almost 8 months now, and still twitching in feet and calfs. Still no real change in the twitching, and get twitches in my arms, knees and even backside sometimes. Still worry about it, but not as much as I once did. I have noticed that alcohol does seem to make it worse, or make me more aware of it.Take care
 
Booze helps while i am drinking but then it makes the twitching go like mad the next day. It also makes my heart rate increase which probably makes the anxiety meter peg, i think that is why my twitching increases the next day, (i'm guessing). I have had for 7months now and i am also noticing that the weather makes them change as well.
 
I have been twithcing for over 2 years - in every muscle - includingthe tongue. I have had 2 EMGs - they picked up fasiculations in my left calve - said they see it all the time and that it is BFS. Told me to go away and not call them again. Interestingly - my dad has BFS. He has has it since he was 21 - and he is 63 now. The neuro was telling us that this often runs in families as well.If you have had an exam and an EMG - move on - take it from many people here - all of us have wasted a lot of time wrrying for nothing...
 

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