Lyme Disease: Causes, Symptoms & Treatment

EyeoftheWild

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lyme disease is caused by a tick,flea,mosquito. 50%percent of people never get a rash. unusual features of lyme are twitching of the face or uvula or the top of the mouth, tight muscles that are sore and tingly. tingling in the back of the head and extremitys or private areas. lyme disease is very much like its cousin syphilis as they are both spirochetes and infection of the nervous system and blood vessels. were do you live? do you have tingling in your lips? are your eyes ok?what is your body temperature?do you have pain in the testicles or teeth?do you have sinus problems that never go away?how is your balance?
eric
 
Eric,

You are fear mongering when you say that mosquitoes and fleas can cause the spread of Lyme disease.

I include a quote from the British Columbia Department of Health.

"There is no convincing evidence that Lyme disease can be spread to humans by insects such as mosquitoes, flies, or fleas."

I have included the link:


Furthermore, I have done considerable reading about Lyme and I have never, not once come across twitching as a symptom.

Basso
 
I read a list of symptoms released by the cdc that has twitching as a symptom. Twitching in the face and tip of tongue is a more recognized symptom. It is your immune reaction to the Lyme bacteria that cause the Lyme "symptoms" not the Lyme bacteria itself. A lot of people on this site believe bfs to be autoimmune in nature so I suppose in SOME people who twitch and have been diagnosed with Lyme, the twitching could be a result of that person's immune reaction to the Lyme bacteria. You can also have Lyme and fasics unrelated to each other. Of course I could be totally wrong and some things we will never know for sure. There are a lot of theories and differing opinions in medicine in general.
 
My sister-in-laws sister was recently diagnosed with Lyme. They think she may have been carrying it for a couple of years before neurological symptoms flared up. She was experiencing more of the sudden jolting (myclonic) movements and her toes would curl up and when she was walking, her step would stop in mid-stride. It was really freaky. She was going through all kinds of testing at the same time as me and the University of Pennsylvania finally diagnosed her and began intervenous treatments. She never recalls ever having the bullseye rash.
 
my post above is totally correct and may I add that it is known that ticks are not the only vector of lyme disease and that is why some people never get the bullseye rash. it is also known that you can get other infections as well from one bite. babesiosis,ehrliciosis,bartonella and mycoplasma . so when I tell you that you can get lyme disease from a flea I mean it.I was just at my doctor and the lady who was a patient handed me a pamphlet about lyme. she is the commisioner of health for the state of connecticut. she states alot of people are not getting diagnosed and have neuro problems from it. also that you are not going to get diagnosed by a doctor and the tests from the main labs like stonybrook are flawed. anyway its high time we all woke up to this disease. and EyeoftheWild dont look for peer reviews as they are only going to confuse you because we dont know there intent.
eric
 
by the way Basso "there is no convincing evidence" that is saying there is no evidence so far to them, that does not mean it does not exist!
eric
 
again i must say that your fear mongering EyeoftheWild is not well liked at least by me. lyme disease is an infection of the nervous system just like its cousin syphilis. syphilis was the great imatator as is lyme now. this can cause bfs in anybody as the nerves are attacked by your own body. you are hurting other people trying to get help but as usual you want to be the" controller" of this chatroom and guide people into a world of misery that you dwell in.It must be painful to be you and sit there and try to go against everything I say as if I am just a nut trying to convince people that lyme disease is the cause of everyones ills. if you were educated on the facts of lyme we would not be on this chatroom.right now the only known cause of bfs is lyme disease and it is curable,what did you not understand about cureable?I will bet that ryan will after treatment have gotten better as you will have stayed the same or worse who knows but as for know lyme disease is a real probability and I intend to let every one know about it without bieng shut out as if what I am saying is ridicules. happy fasciculations everyone!
eric
 
Eric:

You are under the erroneous impression that this is a debate about Lyme; it isn't. It is a propaganda scuffle.

A few years back, in Canada, there was a very nasty, little man who went around telling people that the holocaust never happened. He mixed truth with fantasy and many vulnerable people were confused, or worse, sucked in by his version of events. What made matters worse was he was a high school teacher and so had access to young susceptible minds. Luckily the authorities sent this mad man to jail for spreading hate.

This story is not, unfortunately, extraordinary because the world has too many such pathetic creatures. However, what I personally found most abhorrent was how people jumped to this man's support, saying that his freedom of speech had been violated. These people only served to muddy the waters, and the original evil was all but lost in the fray. Namely, that a demented mind had propagated a wrong, hateful, and personal agenda.

This is an extreme case, and I am not suggesting you are motivated by the vitriol that was this nut case’s calling card. In fact, I do believe that you care, in your own way. What I am suggesting is that you are taking advantage of the emotions of others. You state many things, yet you lack the proof to back up these claims. You call down the other voices of Lyme because they do not agree with yours. It is a grand conspiracy perpetrated by the evil insurance companies. (much gesticulating of hands in the air)

I am not a fan of insurance companies, but in the Lyme debate, I can understand their reticence to be obliged to pay for a treatment that is contentious and seemingly has no end. You deliberately confuse the issue by introducing spurious evidence, which is a disservice to real bona-fide sufferers.

Eric, I wouldn't know how long a person, who really does have lyme, should take a course of antibiotics for, and neither do you. Neither do the many experts it would seem. The voices that urge caution in the Lyme debate do not emanate from a single source. There are scientists and physicians around the globe that have concerns about the way Lyme is dx and treated; as there are those who believe the contrary. The answer; no doubt, lies somewhere in the middle. In some cases lyme is over-diagnosed and in others, under-diagnosed.

Again, you seek to flummox people when you suggest that I endeavour to dissuade them from seeking cure. Nothing could be further from the truth, and you know it. Or do you? I am only balancing out the equation so that sufferers of BFS can make informed decisions, rather than emotional ones.

BTW, how's the bomb shelter coming?

Cheers,
Basso
 
Thanks, guys for your prompt response; I very much appreciate it. I went to the pulmonary doc yesterday, and he said my pft test was super good, as well as my blood gases, and he thinks I am suffering from panic attacks,although I have been diagnosed with a third degree esophageal motility dysfunction and will be going to an ent tomorrow-Friday. The dr wants to put me on one of three meds: zoloft 50, paxil 20, or lexapro 10- I have read bad things about lexapro causing pupil dilation and increasing muscle twitching. Has anybody had success with any of these meds? I don't want to take anything that is going to cloud my thinking any more than it already is, or that will make me drowsy.

Thanks and God bless you all,

Cherie
 

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