Introducing My Fasciculations Story

Outlook1958

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Hello dear community,first of all: Thanks to everybody of you who initiated this project and participate in the forum. I had no idea that so many people suffer from all sorts of fasciculations and are as worried about it as I am. And thank you for the "BFS in a nutshell" thread. It provides information on a more detailed level than the 1-2 paragraphs of most medical pages.Well, let me introduce myself and tell my story: I'm a 22 year old guy from Germany, I'm studying linguistics at university and doing a part-time job as a software developer. I suffer from a disease (or pseudo-disease) called "vegetative dystonia". This is a sort of nervous disorder that makes my body over-react to negative emotions like fear and anxiety and possibly long-term stress, which results in a high blood pressure and pulse, excessive sweating, tickling in the chest and in the belly, diarrhea and even reflux (in rare cases). In addition, I've always been precautios about my health and body signals since I was a child. For example, I had some stomach ache as a child and was afraid of having appendicitis. I was checked for heart defects by several doctors and even had a short hospital stay (of course I was terribly afraid of a heart disease or something), but nothing was found. My physical condition and my ability to do sports without breaking down or something confirmes that my heart is OK. So they all agreed that it was my over-reacting nervous system. A further interesting indicator is that I have a highly sensitive sleep. I immediately wake up with a high pulse if I hear a noise that I'm not used to.About 7 weeks ago I came up with the symptom that finally brought me here: fasciculations. It all started at the worst possible moment ever: My cardiologist prescribed me a beta blocker called Metoprolol 25mg retard (it has nothing to do with mentally retarded people - I think it means that the medicine is released over time in the body or something) which lowered my blood pressure to a normal level. Before: ~ 145/85, Now: 125/75. The pulse (when relaxed) went down from approx. 95 to 80. This is quite surprising because 25mg is a very low dose for a guy like me (1,78m, 83 kilo). Even the cardiologist was surprised because he actually meant to increase the dose because such a low dose should not have such an effect (usually people get 150-250mg). I do not experience any of the side effects listed for the medicine. Unfortunately I had an accident just three days after starting to take the beta blocker - I severely cut my hand on a metal fence and was taken to ER to stitch it. To avoid infection, the doctors prescribed me an antibiotic and gave me some pain killers.The day after the accident I developed fever and immediately went to the see my GP because I was almost sure that this was related to the wound. The doctor however detected a slightly sore throat and said that is had nothing to do with the injury. This also was the day the fasciculations started. I thought that this was somehow related to the fever. The twitching occured in very different parts of my body - legs, arms, belly, back, shoulders, but only when the muscle was relaxed, e.g. when lying still in bed. Sometimes it was a single twitch, sometimes several of them one after another. The face and neck muscles and the tongue remained unaffected. At first I wasn't worried at all... I thought it might be a minor side effect of the antibiotics or something. At first.The sickness developed on a little like a common cold, but not exactly the same. The fever and weakness were much more excessive than during a common cold, whereas the typical symptoms (sore throat, running nose, cough) were far too mild. Well, fortunately, the mysterious sickness disappeared after five days or so. During this time, I had been to the doctor's several times to check the injury and the sickness, but nothing abormal was found. The fasciculatios however did not cease and the doctor recommended taking magnesium pills (no blood check was done yet). The magnesium did not help however, and so I asked my cardiologist whether the twitching could be a side effect of the beta blocker. He denied that and told me to make a blood check at my GP and especially have a look at the potassium. A lack of potassium may be responsible for fasciculations, he said. Well, my potassium is at 3.68 mmol/l, the normal range is 3.60-5.00. Low, but not too low. Hmm. He told me to eat bananas, apricots and tomatoes... OK, a banana a day keeps the doctor away... NOT. Not funny, I know -.-The cardiologist and my GP both also told me to see a neurologist (my appointment is next Wednesday, Feb 4) This was last week - and at that point, all my fears and horrors started. I spent hours and hours on the internet and quickly came to the conclusions that I am experiencing a symptom of ALS. This of course scared (and still scares) me to death... I think I don't need to depict all the things that wander through my imagination since most of you know at least the basics of this horrible disease. Now I'm waiting for Wednesday and just can't get my mind off the stuff... The fasciculations seem to have decreased in my arms and upper torso, but still are very persistent in the large leg muscles. I can't stop concentrating on my legs, checking and verifying every movement. When I walk through my room and look in to the large mirror, I ask myself whether my legs always move exactly this specific way when I walk. Is there any difference? Do my legs always feel the way they feel when I walk up the stairs? Do I actually walk slower than usually? How long can a normal person actually walk on his toes? Some of these "tests" cause a normal, very slight muscle fatigue, but I can't tell whether this is within normal parameters because I haven't observed my muscles so closely before. There might be slight differencies I haven't noticed... However, I have done some workout at the gym recently and haven't noticed any muscle weakness, loss of stamina or other strange things. I can perform all of my excercises without any restrictions. The precision is also OK, I haven't noticed any clumsiness while driving my car with manual gear shift (i.e. with a clutch pedal that needs careful and well-controlled movements of the left leg). Sometimes I feel some sort of subtle tickling throughout my legs, especially when I concentrate on them. Does this concentration cause the tickling or is it actually always there, but perceivable only if concentrating? I do not know... Same for the arms and hands: Strength and precision are okay, but I have this feeling of uncertainity whether they "feel" the same as usually when used.*sigh* It seems like my mind is looping through some sort of diagnostic program, again and again. And each time the result is non-conclusive (after all I'm still not SURE about having ALS), my mind "transferres" more concentration and mental power to the diagnostics. First I only thought about the fasciculations and ALS only in idle time, but now I can hardly concentrate on anything else. Activities that are thought to be pleasant and relaxing (movies, music, talking to friends, going out) only disturb me. I often just sit around and wait for the next muscle to twitch or spend hours on the internet reading things about ALS. After all, some sites say that fasciculations are the first symptoms that may occur long before any weakness is felt. It's so scary... You know, I'm a person who has his life under control, sees things with analytic eyes, knows exactly what to do and what it results in and is ready to challenge difficulties. But having a terminal illness is different. This is nothing you can prevent through cautiousness, nothing you can change, no matter how good you are informed and how carefully you place your decisions. These thoughts make me feel extremely weak and depressed, but I can't cast them aside. All this stuff literally steals my mental power. ALS, fasciculations and their causes and varieties are the last thing I think about before falling asleep and the first thing that gets into my mind when I wake up. I wasn't able to relax and "feel good" at all for about a week now.I want this all to be over...
 
I know your pain all too well. My symptoms are more severe as you will see if you read any of my posts. I get through it (not perfectly but adequately) by realizing that if it is something bad I will not have to wonder as it will be at some point totally clear and in that case and now all the thinking and analyzing in the world is not going to do me any good. This is just like any cancer or an aneurysm that is subtlly lurking in my body. I can analyze every lump or bump or sensation and attribute it to the development of something horrible but there is really not much I can do about it until it reaches a level that is clear to a doctor. Right now my neurological symptoms don't disable me and my doctor doesn't know the cause. The only way to get more info on the cause is to take medication/treatment/test-related risks and he and I feel it doesn't make sense unless I am unable to do things. Bottom line from asking really persistent questions is that detecting a neurological problem (even a treatable one) at a very early non-disabling stage does not really do you much good in the overwhelming majority of cases, so the docs are in no rush to diagnose and doing so is very difficult if not impossible until serious symptoms develop. The easiest diagnosis is blood tests or the symptoms just going away after something passes or ceases (like time or use of a drug etc). Stop doing the testing. It won't tell you anything and only makes your more anxious. If I thought for a second testing would tell me something, I'd be doing it. The real problems are not ones you have to wonder about.Krackersones
 
I recommend you comb the boards and see just how similar to yours other peoples' symptoms have been. Accept that fact that we all have something physical going on with us that is not well understood, but apparently not terribly dangerous. Also realize that most of your misery is caused by anxiety, which in my lay opinion is often a type of obsessive-compulsive disorder. As I put it, our brains "get stuck on scared" for whatever reason, not our fault. Frequent strength testing, attempts to self-diagnose, intrusive, unpleasant thoughts -- these are all OCD symptoms, and the only real relief will come when you rewire your brain, taking advantage of its inherent plasticity (mind shapes brain, literally). Anxiety medication may help some or a lot, depending. Time eventually helps, too, once you realize you've outlived the stalking phantom.I twitch all over. Last night my throat was twitching, and even my tongue, which freaked me out. I had been all day in front of a laptop with my neck at an awkward angle, and I now attribute the twitching to muscle strain / fatigue, since it hasn't continued. Legs are a favorite twitiching area, because they're doing a lot of work throughout the day, and exercise can trigger twitches. Most of my twitches are there. Calves, shins, top and bottom of feet, thighs, buttocks, all around the hips, belly, chest, arms from shoulders to hands... sometimes tongue, lips, face and scalp. Not much left!Caffeine, medicine changes can be triggers, as can fatigue, illness, stress.As you have no doubt discovered from this board, widespread twitching that starts all at once could hardly be farther than what is seen in serious illness.The other advice is all good. Don't keep testing yourself. You're only feeding the OCD monster and I have discovered that walking on my heels, toes, etc. obsessively only aggravates the symptoms and can cause real muscle problems. Hang in there, friend.
 
Thank you so much for your answers! I'm glad to see that there are people out there who have the same symptoms as I do and think a similar way - and even have contact to you here on the board. You know, I do tell my parents and my friends about my fasciculations, but they response with sentences like "calm down" or "hmm... well, then... go see a doctor". I do not blame them at all, after all not everybody uproots the whole internet in search for neuro-diseases and symptoms, and they are no neurologists either. The least of them have even heard about ALS... It only rings a bell when I tell them about Stephen Hawking. I'm sure that some of the people I talked to would react in a similar way as I do, but they simply aren't affected by this problem and possibly can't imagine what my mind is currently going through. I hope that nobody of my friends and family will ever have to experience this.
 
Hi there 'Angst 1986' (I like the name by the way!)I have just read your entry and the thread that follows it. You have received great advice from fellow sufferers but I thought I would just add a few words of comfort to try to give you some peace of mind prior to your neurology appointment. You have given a helpful and detailed analysis of your background and I sense that you are just like me in that you experience severe health anxiety symptoms. I am twice your age and am a family doctor and have convinced myself over the years that I have had a number of serious medical conditions and was proved wring every time. I developed BFS several months ago and this was by far the biggest health scare I have ever had and was SO convinced that Ihad ALS that I was unable to function due to the severe anxiety symptoms I experienced. In your case, the fact that you have fasciculation without weakness is an EXTREMELY reassuring sign and, if it is possible for you to do so, I would try to reduce your anxiety because this will be making your symptoms worse.I am sure your neurologist will be equally reassuring although no doubt s/he will want to arrange some tests to give you extra peace of mind. Even after my neurology appointment and even after my normal tests I did not fully believe that I was going to be ok and even now have moments of panic and doubt. I am however much much less woried than I used to be despite ongoing and severe fasciculations.Good luck for your appointment next week.Greetings from new ZealandSimon
 
Thanks a lot, Simon_w! It is always pleasant to know that somebody understands my fears, and it is nice to receive words of comfort.By the way, I chose this nick because it represents my condition. Being a German native speaker, I somehow feel that the usage of this (actually German) word in the English language makes it sound exotic and somehow mysterious to me. That's why I chose it.
 
Hi Angst!We are almost the same! Im right next to you (CZ), when my fasciculations started I was 22, I study university and Im doing part time job as software developer, lol :) And I have the same problem like you, however I have never visited doctor about my bad reaction on the stress or fear (yeah I would sweat and shake terribly!).Maybe this disorder just make our peripheral nerves more sensitive and likely to fasciculate...I would agree with theory that anxiety and stress is trigger for BFS in some cases. You definitely sounds like clever person (I understand that German universities are pretty hard) and knowledge, especially in medical field, is pretty bad for BFS or anything, since you still can find relations...With you age and onset, I think you have nothing to worry about just like we all.Na was noch kann ich sagen? :) PS: Mhehe, nachste woche wandere ich auf Rugen - Ich liebe das Ostsee and ich freue mich so, ich muss die Kraidenfelsen sehen! Keine Muskelzuckungen kann halt mich! Ich habe Deutsch sehr lange nicht gesprochen :)
 
Taking this opportunity to tell you what my neurologist said yesterday. This is nothing new, but every little piece counts. He said that fascis are mostly benign and can be brought on by stress, infection, anxiety and too much coffee among other things. He said he had experienced them himself quite a bit when he was going through divorce. As doctors are often the worst hypochondriacs he really freaked out about them as he thought it meant he could be seriously ill. Of course, he was just like us – fine. And to Angst – congratulations on the nickname! You're fine! The fascis are not going to kill you. I know where you're at right now and I feel with you, but there's really nothing new to say. Twitches are not a sign of als – weakness is. There's plenty of reassurance to be found here. Just browse through the threads.
 
Thank you, Bomp!By the way, I had a university exam today, an oral exam that took 15 minutes. During the exam I felt a little nervous, but I didn't have (or didn't notice) any fascics. Immediately after the exam I went out and sat down in my car, but before actually driving I searched some stuff in my bag and made a phone call. My legs were relaxed during this time and the fascics were somewhat stronger and more frequent than usually. During the car drive itself the fascics of course ceased because of my legs operating the pedals. Afterwards, at home, the level was normal again... Just a slight twitch here and there, as usually.Hmm, there might be some coincidence between the twitches and the exam situation, but I'm not sure. This would however support the wide-spread theory that stress and anxiety really have some influece on BFS. I don't think that two weeks of vacation in a nice place would cure us all forever, but the influence of stress and panic is really undeniable. I'm also very curious about the "other", non-mental type of stress like viral infections and their influence on twitching muscles....
 
Hey Savanturn,looks like I somehow missed your post, I'm very sorry! You know, I still feel kinda upset and scared because of my condition... Don't want to know how many other things I forgot or missed due to my anxiety and the resulting lack of concentration.Really nice to see somebody from the neighborhood over here. Well, it somehow looks like there MIGHT be a coincidence between programmers and anxiety ;) Maybe nervous people like us somehow like the feeling of creating great things while just sitting in front of screen and a keyboard. If programming work goes on well and you're not on a tight schedule, it can be real fun and can distract oneself from fears and anxieties.Your German is fine by the way! I haven't been to the Ostsee yet, however to the Nordsee... It's beautiful. It is good idea to have a nice vacation and relax. Even if it might not cure the fascics, it will surely help an upset nervous system calm down and regenerate a little. Have a nice time there!Well, Sunday evening something strange happened regarding my muscle twitching: It stopped and didn't come back for the whole evening and even today morning, except for maybe 2-3 RARE, single twitches here and there. I was so glad and hoped so much that it's over finally, but today towards noon the twitching returned... Again first of all in my legs, but also here and there randomly (arms, belly, back). This hope-breaking relapse made me extremely sad and anxious, I'm kinda going all over the whole thing again and again *sigh*...36 hours to go until my appointment at the neuro's. I do not even know whether to look forward to it or to be afraid. I already imagine the horror scenarios like the doc looking at some monitors and devices and saying "Well, this doesn't look good... Look, the waves strongly deviate from the norm - they should look completely different. I think we'll have to do some additional tests and just wait and see how it develops... "
 

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