ok this could be totally out of line to ask this. I have been getting horrible girgle bubble noises after I swallow liquid or eat something. air grapepie keep coming up! In my crazy mind I think mabye it's my throat muscles not working properly! when I lay down I don't notice them much but when I'm sitting or standing there is constant noises and grapepie. am I way off for thinking like this? I just need to rationalize! If anyone has and input on this it's greatly appreciated. Ashley
Gurgling Bubbles After Swallowing?
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Colin yes that's how I feel, better when I lie down. I guess just saying oh anxiety to myself doesn't work because in my pee brain I think how can anxiety really cause this! I just took a ant acid and I feel like its not bubbling as much? I dunno it's just my crazy mind thinks my swallowing muscles are not working properly!!! miss u lost Colin! miss all of u Guys on the chat 
Emilyomouse
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Ash, if you have any type of ibs, gerd or stomach issues which are very related to stress in spite of what google says, it;s extremely common and often one of the first symptoms of excess acid production. Stomach issues are weird. I have had them for 10 years and I've had several scopes, all were normal aside from some minor irritation. Stress causes your acid pumps to go into overdrive and meds only work for this about 50% of the time. You are fine and just having stress related stomach issues. Your history and current situation is textbook. A good gastro will verify it. stay calm and do this. 1. calm way down2. eat a bland diet for a week but don't not eat( small low protein meals).3. use prilosec for a short period of time ( 2-4 weeks)4. no caffeine, coffee( even decaf), red sauces,soda,tea, alcohol, nicotine5. try juicing during this time( cabbage juice tastes terrible but works like a champ, you only need about 4 oz twice a day)6. take slippery elm a couple times a day before eating7.take DGL and allow 30 minutes before slippery elm( look this supplement up and take these with warm water)8. start your morning off with activia yogurt after dgl and slippery elmIT WILL GO AWAY
Ash, I totally understand how you're feeling! I'm also having problems with my mouth and throat. My tongue feels tense and sore on the right side (don't forget I have tongue twitches too). I also feel strange sensations when I swallow sometimes. I know this stuff sucks. Honestly, the tongue/throat stuff is what scares me the most. I've been stressed/anxious many times in my life before (before the onset of bfs), but never had this type of problems...
JohnnyRocket
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Yes it is crazy for this to be happening Ashley and I hope someday you will get past it. Every little thing you notice different on your body somehow gets connected to ALS. Until you correct that, this stuggle will continue. I'm crossing my fingers that you get over it soon. 
katiemichelle
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As I was reading this post I took a drink of water and my throat made the same noises
Looks like you swallow a lot of air during eating and swallowing and even normal breathing. It is typical for anxious pepole, me too. I am still eating in a way like some dreadful creature is running behind me and I need to eat and drink as soon as possible... then the air goes back... awwwwwful feeling.I think, following dietary principles given in some of the posts above would be the best solution (except I am not sure about something made of slippery elm - never heard that this tree could be useful for stomach, but why not?)
Common anxiety symptoms include:Body (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with the body in general): Allergy problems, increase in allergies (number, sensitivity, reactions, lengthier reactions) Back pain, stiffness, tension, pressure, soreness, spasms, immobility in the back or back muscles Blanching (looking pale, loss of color in the face or skin) Blushing, turning red, flushed face, flushed skin, blushing, red face or skin Body aches, parts of or your entire body feels sore and achy, feels like your body and muscles are bruised Body jolts, body zaps, electric jolt feeling in body, intense body tremor or “body shake” Body temperature increase or decrease, change in body temperature Burning skin, itchy, “crawly,” prickly or other skin sensations, skin sensitivity, numbness on the skin Burning skin sensation on the face, neck, ears, scalp, or shoulders Buzzing sensation in the feet, toes, hands, fingers, arms, legs Chest pain, chest tightness Choking Chronic Fatigue, exhaustion, super tired, worn out Clumsiness, feeling clumsy, co-ordination problems with the limbs or body Cold chills, feeling cold Craving sugar, sweets, chocolate, usual craving for sugar and sweets Difficulty speaking, moving mouth, talking, co-ordination problems with the mouth or tongue Dizziness, feeling lightheaded Dizzy, feeling dizzy Electric shock feeling, body zaps Excess of energy, you feel you can’t relax Falling sensation, feel like your are falling or dropping even though you aren't Feel like you are going to pass out or faint Feeling cold or chilled Feel wrong, different, foreign, odd, or strange Flu-like symptoms, general malaise, feel ill, like you are coming down with a flu Flushed face, red face, flushed skin Frequent urination Hair loss, hair is thinning, or clumps of hair are falling out Head Zaps Heart palpitations, racing heart Hyperactivity, excess energy, nervous energy Increased or decreased sex drive Infection - increased infections, persistent infection Mouth or throat clicking or grating sound/noise when you move your mouth or jaw, such as when talking Muscles that vibrate, jitter, tremor, or shake when used Muscle twitching Nausea Nausea vomiting Neck, back, shoulder pain, tightness/stiffness Night sweats, waking up in a sweat, profusely sweating at night No energy, feeling lethargic, tired Numbness Numbness tingling, numbness and tingling Numbness and tingling, and other skin sensations on hands, feet, face, head, or any other places on the body Persistent muscle tension, stiffness Pounding heart, heart feels like it is beating too hard Pulsing or throbbing muscles. 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Tingling sensations, anywhere on the body, including the hands, feet, legs, arms, head, mouth, chest, groin area Throat or mouth clicking or grating sound/noise when you move your mouth or jaw, such as when talking TMJ Trembling, shaking, tremors Twitching Unsteadiness, dizziness, feeling dizzy or lightheaded Urgency to urinate, frequent urination, sudden urge to go to the washroom (similar to urinary tract or prostate infection symptoms) Warm spells Weak - feel weak, weakness, low energy, light, soft, like you may faint Weak legs, arms, or muscles Weight loss, weight gainChest (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with the chest area): Chest tremors, trembling in the chest, chest feels like it is vibrating Chest pain or discomfort Concern about the heart Feel like you have to force yourself to breath Find it hard to breath, feeling smothered, shortness of breath Frequent yawning to try and catch your breath Heart Palpitations – beating hard or too fast, rapid heartbeat Heart - Irregular heart rhythms, flutters or ‘skipped’ beats, tickle in the chest that makes you cough Pounding heart, heart feels like it is beating too hard Rib or rib cage tightness, pressure, or feeling like a tight band around the rib cageEmotions (see mood) (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with emotions, mood, and feelings)Fears (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with fear): A heightened fear of what people think of you Afraid of being trapped in a place with no exits Constant feeling of being overwhelmed. Fear of being in public Fear of dying Fear of losing control Fear of impending doom Fear of making mistakes or making a fool of yourself to others Fear of passing out Fear that you are losing your mind Fears about irrational things, objects, circumstances, or situations Fears of going crazy, of dying, of impending doom, of normal things, unusual feelings and emotions, unusually frightening thoughts or feelings Heightened self awareness, or self-consciousness Need to find nearest washrooms before you can feel comfortable Need to seat near exitsHead (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with the head): Brain fog Burning, itchy, tight scalp Dizziness Dizzy Dizziness or light-headedness Frequent headaches, migraine headaches Feeling like there is a tight band around your head, pressure, tightness Hair loss, hair is thinning, or clumps of hair are falling out Head, neck or shoulder pain, tightness/stiffness Head zaps, head tremors Giddiness Numbness Numbness tingling, numbness and tingling Shooting pains, stabbing pains, and odd pressures in the neck, head, or face Shooting pains in the face Shooting pains in the scalp or head When you close your eyes you feel like are beginning to, or will, float upwards Sore jaw that feels like a tooth ache TMJ (Temporo-Mandibular Joint) - clenching of the jaw or grinding of the teethHearing/Ear(s) (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with hearing): Feel like there is something stuck in your ear, that your ear canal it plugged or blocked, that there is a pebble in your ear that you can't get out Low rumbling sounds Reduced hearing, frequent or intermittent reduced hearing or deafness in one or both ears Ringing in the ears, noises in the ears, noises in the head Pulsing in the ears, throbbing sound in the ear(s) Tickle or itch in your ear that you can't seem to get atMind (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with the mind and thinking): Afraid of everything Altered state of reality, consciousness, or universe feeling Brain Fog Deja Vu, a feeling like you've done or experienced something before Depersonalization Derealization Desensitization Difficulty concentrating, short-term memory loss Difficulty thinking, speaking, forming thoughts, following conversations Disorientation Fear of going crazy Fear of losing control Fear of impending doom Feelings of unreality Frequent feeling of being overwhelmed, or that there is just too much to handle or do Having difficulty concentrating Nightmares, bad dreams Obsession about sensations or getting better Repetitive thinking or incessant ‘mind chatter’ Short-term learning impairment, have a hard time learning new information Short-term memory impairment, can't remember what I did a few days, hours, or moments ago Spaced out feelings, feeling spaced out "Stuck" thoughts; thoughts, mental images, concepts, songs, or melodies that "stick" in your mind and replay over and over again. Trapped in your mind feeling Underlying anxiety, apprehension, or fear You often feel you are carrying the world on your shouldersMood / Emotions (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with mood, emotions, and feelings): Always feeling angry and lack of patience Depersonalization Depression Dramatic mood swings (emotional flipping) Emotionally blunted, flat, or numb Emotional "flipping" (dramatic mood swings) Emotions feel wrong Everything is scary, frightening Feeling down in the dumps Feeling like things are unreal or dreamlike Frequently being on edge or 'grouchy' Feel like crying for no apparent reason Have no feelings about things you used to Not feeling like yourself, detached from loved ones, emotionally numb Underlying anxiety, apprehension, or fear You feel like you are under pressure all the timeMouth/Stomach (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with the mouth and stomach): A ‘tinny’, ‘metallic’ or ‘ammonia’, or unusual smell or taste Aerophagia (swallowing too much air, stomach distention, belching) Burning mouth, feeling like the inside of your mouth is burning, or tingling, or like pins and needles, or all of these together or at different times Burning tongue, feeling like your tongue is burning, or tingling, or like pins and needles, or all of these, or all of these together or at different times Choking Constant craving for sugar or sweets Constipation Diarrhea Difficulty swallowing Difficulty talking, pronouncing certain letters or sounds, mouth feels like it isn't moving right, slurred speech Dry mouth Feeling like you can’t swallow properly or that something will get caught in your throat Feeling like your tongue is swollen IBS Lack of appetite or taste Lump in the throat, tight throat, something stuck in your throat Mouth muscles twitching/jumping Mouth or throat clicking or grating sound/noise when you move your mouth or jaw, such as when talking Nausea Nausea vomiting Nausea or abdominal stress Numbness Numbness tingling, numbness and tingling Stomach upset, gas, belching, bloating Teeth grinding The thought of eating makes you nauseous Tight throat, lump in throat Throat or mouth clicking or grating sound/noise when you move your mouth or jaw, such as when talking TMJ Tongue symptoms - Tingly, “stretched,” numb, frozen, itchy, “crawly,” burning, twitching, “jumpy,” aching, sore, or swollen tongue (when it isn’t). Urgency to urinate, frequent urination, sudden urge to go to the washroom VomitingSkin (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with the skin): Burning skin sensations, skin sensitivity Numbness Numbness tingling, numbness and tingling Skin problems, infections, rashesSleep (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with sleep): Difficulty falling or staying asleep Frequent bad, bizarre, or crazy dreams Hearing sounds in your head that jolt you awake Insomnia, or waking up ill in the middle of the night Jolting awake Waking up in a panic attack You feel worse in the morningsSight (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with sight): Distorted, foggy, or blurred vision Dry, watery or itchy eyes Eye tricks, seeing things our of the corner of your eye that isn’t there, stars, flashes Eyes sensitive to light Spots in the vision Flashing lights when eyes are closed Your depth perception feels wrongTouch (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with touch): Burning skin sensations, skin sensitivity Feeling cold or chilled Numbness Numbness tingling, numbness and tingling Pain Tingling, pins and needles feelingsOther anxiety symptoms are described as:Being like a hypochondriac, muscle twinges, worry all the time, tingles, gagging, tightness in the chest, tongue twitches, shaky, breath lump, heart beat problems, head tingles, itchy tingling in arms and legs, and so many more.In addition to these anxiety symptoms, you may also find yourself worrying compulsively about:• Having a heart attack• Having a serious undetected illness• Dying prematurely• Going insane or losing your mind• Suddenly snapping• Losing it• Uncontrollably harming yourself or someone you love• Losing control of your thoughts and actions• Being embarrassed or making a fool out of yourself• Losing control• Fainting in public• Not breathing properly• Losing control of reality• Choking or suffocating• Being aloneI rest my case Ashley
katiemichelle
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I love that list Raindog. From anxiety centre? 
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)this is why I'm freaking out:What Kind of Symptoms Occur with Swallowing Problems?Slow chewing or eatingCoughing or choking during or after eatingGurgling sounds from the throat during or after eatingThroat clearing after drinking or swallowingCoughing food back up after eatingHiccups after swallowingChest discomfort during or after swallowingUnexplained weight loss
zeustopple
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Ashley, Funny you mentioned the "gurgles" in your throat noises, I get those all too frequently. I can get them drinking liquids, and sometimes I can yawn and I can get it right smack in the middle of a yawn, and on occasion, i can be talking and it's like the saliva grapepie up in my throat and creates that noise. To me it's embarrassing and quite audibly loud to be honest, and I'm not sure what it is. I've had it for some time now, I don't think you need to be worried any over it. ) Carm
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Nice list RD, by the way. Not lacking in content to be sure.
I'm trying so hard to not freak out but my throat makes these girgles even when I just swallow or not even swallow just tiny grapepie coming up and I can feel them. I'm freaking scared this has to do with my throat muscles VS Al's! I'm on vacation an do can't even enjoy it because I'm totally upset! Plz help me understand why this isn't ALS? Early sign
WellsFive,as Seepi told you, weird sounds and feeling of the grapepie coming up on esophagus are signs of either physiological GERD (caused by wrong diet, stomach tissue irritation, piloryc herina etc.) or anxiety caused GERD-like syndrome. being anxious you gulp a lot of air during breathing, and what you feel seems to be air regurgitation, well known for anxiuos persons. Your esophagus might also be tight, spasmatic due to fears or just have its own peristaltics (normally downward) like your guts - I suppose you are not surprised with girggling sounds caused during the day by your guts - here is the same. Something semi-liquid is moving (saliva mostly) inside your esophagus causing those sounds --I just realised mine is girggling too but I NEVER had a single fear of it, whishing you the same.Bulbar palsy means significant problems with swallowing, and there is not so much muscles in our throat to compensate for dead ones. people caught with bulbar palsy ususally first notice they can not eat as before - single eating act is lengthed significantly, they struggle to swallow because they have significantly damages synchrony in working of throat muscles, and instead of opening under the food pressure it is closed etc. That is why they feel chocking and have to eat a single breakfast for hours. It also alters speech, and significantly - it becomes slurry and nasal like for those who are caught by stroke (but not like when you have flu or slurring due to extreme anxiety or tirednes). All sounds became... well, flat and colorless, and the voice is toneless and definitely struggling for wording. and it is quite quick.I mean have girggle in your throat for months and nothing more dramatic would rather mean you need a week of antacide treatment, a change in your diet and maybe a visit to gastroenterologist to see if you need protonic pump inhibitors or not.holy god, that GERD-like syndrome might cause you even worse surprises (I had A FEELING that my food gets into my nasal cavity, which is definitely not the best experience in my life - not real nasal regurgitation but just FEELING of it) - and it still comes and wanes and left me quite harmless.go on enjoy your vacation as much as possible. it includes probably a bit of antianxiety pills to be able to do it.