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bfhopeful2

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I've been doing a lot of research and have a hypothesis that's hard to refute. We all agree that exercise, viral illness, stress and antibiotic use have been a precipitator to our condition. We also have greater symptoms when we are stressed, sick or exercise. What do these all have in common? They create free radicals in excess. Yes...stress, viral infections, exercise and antibiotic use all create free radicals.Free radicals cause oxidation "rust" in our bodies. The body does a good job of eliminating them, but some people have an excess that can not be easily dealt with. Bad diets containing low antioxidants don't help.This is where the theory gets interesting. Free radical build up causes a toxicity in the body. It is my theory that it effects the neuromuscular juntion which is responsible for nerve connectivity to the muscles. It controls all nerves, motor and sensory. This toxicity is very similar to organophosphate poisoning.What reduces our symptoms. Healthy diet, stress reduction etc. For some people eliminating exercise helps. All these thing reduce free radicals.Even secretagentman reported he cured himself by eliminating gluton in his diet. To eliminaye gluton is tough. You have to eat mostly fruits and vegetables, which are what? You got it, high in antioxidants thay eliminate free radicals.Vitamins A, C and E are great at reducing free radicals.
 
I am not saying that is the cure, but it does offer an explanation...forgive me for my spelling it's late and I'm on a palm pre ;)...do you think my theory holds water? Research it yoyrself, it makes sense to me.
 
research organophosphate poisoning...its similar to our symptons and is toxicity in the neoromuscular junction. Free radocals can cause the same toxicity.
 
Its an awesome theory that makes a lot of sense!However, there should be a disproportionate amount of soldiers, marathon runners, castaways etc that would report bfs...which doesnt seem to be the case...The only time I saw doctors talk about bfs type twitching on tv was on that show "mystery diagnosis" where an old man was using ant powder and bug spray to a ridiculous degree and poisoned himself...so it does make sense.
 
I had emailed my neuro last night explaining my theory, he emailed me back this morning."Your theory has logic and is interesting, but I don't think it's the case."Not sure what this means except he sees the logic, but does not think it is our problem. I still think I am on to something.
 
he just emailed me again."organophosphate poisoning does create nerve irritability similar to bfs"That is what puts my theory together. Toxicity in the neuromuscular junction. It's just in our cases our bodies have built it's own toxicity.
 
Well mine started almost a year ago. It will be a year next week.. MIlestone yipee! Anyway mine started after I had a staph and sinus infection and had to go on Rocephen shots (big gun antibiotic used to treat MRSA and meningitis). I was actually on 3 different antibiotics 2 for staph and one for sinus. Then ALL broke loose! I do think this has something to do with as well as a genetic predisposition. I think that because there are 4 in my family with BFS.
 
read up on antibiotics and free radicals...i think you will find it interesting. Believe me if there was a simple answer it would be known already. But I think I am close to something here. Surprised more people are not following the logic. We are all so afraid of something ominous that we are losing focus on dealing with the real issue. Gary came the closest in finding stuff out and concluded it has something to do with potassium channels. I wonder if free radical overloads can damage the potassium channel of a cell.
 
InterestingI was exercising excessively,was totally stressed out when this started for me.I also ate a lot of fruit,ie apples bananas tomato's which i must admit i didnt wash before eating which would have meant that the apples and tomato's may have had chemicals still on them.
 
definately think you are on to something. Keep us posted. Yes, I have read similar things to what you are saying. I don't want to believe this is anything ominous so this is good news to me. There is a website that a supposed Dr. has created that sells something called vitaspice. something he created because he also developed bfs. His site says the same thing you are saying, have you run accross this website? I haven't looked into it too much because I am pregnant and am not supposed to have turmeric and the vitamins have this in them.... I wonder if we should all look into this and maybe at some point in the future we can all try it out and see what the results are. would be very interesting.
 
I have not seen the site, but I will check it out for sure. My only concern iis although I think I'm right vitamins alone won't help. Kind of a too little too late thing. I think stress reduction both emotional and physical would be the only way. Of course the healthy diet would help and in more ways then one. So in short it would have to be a two pronged approach. Stop mass production of free radicals and nutrients to take care of what are there. Eliminating all is obviously not thr goal, but getting them below a toxic level.
 
I saw the vita commercial on you tube. He supposedly had BFS. Magnesium helps my BFS more than the Klonopin and Neurotin. Which I stop taking again. Now just Magnesium. I stopped the Magnesium and my BFS flared up just like old times.
 
The VitaSpice doc was here a few years back - he sent his remedy to several of us free of charge if we promised to fill out his survey in return at the end. I did this and I'm sure a few others did but alas it had little effect for me. Bfshopeful - The argument is good. Years ago I also mentioned this to my doc and he agreed that any kind of stressor on the system could irritate the symptoms: the 'rust' you mentioned he said was like having damaged electrical 'switches'. There are all sort of things we ingest that are slightly toxic from naturally occurring nightshades to industrial chemicals but the body can, does, and has always, been able to clean our systems if we give it a chance. We should be able to recover from this and viruses, infections, antibiotics, but it seems once it is kicked off in some of us (me included) it is somehow self-perpetuating. I was thick into this stuff before arriving at the forum (it went on for years). Clearing out my system of some irritants, chemicals, and slightly toxic foods and drinks did seem to help; I tried all sorts of stuff over the years and have to admit that it is really hard to separate the placebo from the actual when you are doing a test with one individual. The mind is more powerful than most drugs - if you think you are fine then, inevitably, you will be. We see the reverse of this here all the time when people talk themselves into sickness, increase their symptoms, thinking they have some horrid disease; how can the opposite not be true?
 
I agree that the body should naturally rid itself of the overload. I think it would in most cases, but the emotional stress we have over the condition just creates more toxicity. In addition, most don't change their lifestyles to help. Mind body connection is very strong and very real. Every thought you have produces chemical releases. It makes perfect sense from not only a psychological point of view, but from a neurochemistry view as well. You think goog, you feel good.
 
Free radicals?How disapointing... I thought it was a conspiracy involving the UN, the communists AND the aliens from Mars. I did a lot of reasearch on the subject. I even googled "Mars", "muscles" and "twitching" at the same time. It gave 1.320.000 hits. :eek: Free radicals.... How simple... And yet how complex... Think I like that....
 
i happened to think of the same 'theory' as well, it would especially make sense if there's some chronic emergency situation somewhere (a stealthy clan of tumor cells actively multiplying out of control and preparing to metasize into: The BRAIN) or lyme disease, or more likely, the fear of all the abovemight want to also look at glutathione as an antioxidant, since it's the main antioxidant manufactured/used by our body; just beware of the people trying to market "miracle products" which claim to boost glutathione.Glutathione pills don't absorb, but N-Acytylcysteine and other precursors/supplements increase your levels
 
I'm really interested in this and here is why: I work in pharmaceuticals. For 16 yrs I weighed out the raw materials that go into all your medicine, without proper breathing protection. I can only imagine what my system was subjected to. Since this has started I have wondered if this is what I get for having a great paying job. I am now in a different position where I am not exposed to all of that stuff. I can't go on a fruit and veggie diet because I have always had trouble keeping weight on. I am sure there are supplements out there that will help me rid my body of all this crap. I have eliminated caffiene and (almost) stopped smoking. I've also cut down my gluten, but not all the way (come on, it's all my favorite foods).
 

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