Calming Anxiety with Fasciculations

Haileyside

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Hi.I'm thankful for all of you and this forum for being so helpful in calming down my anxiety about fasciculations.I'm now 35. About 11 months ago I began with a finger (left index) moving alone without control. A couple of days later I saw my GP who told me that it shouldn't be very important. I also noticed that my neck was not very stable at that time, moving slightly when I tried to be relaxed. I was seeing an otolaryngologist for a low noise in the left ear, and I told him about that movements in the neck, which he confirmed, saying that I should be careful about that, because it could be some kind of mild epilepsy. I called a friend who is an orthopedic surgeon and he recommended a neuro-surgeon, a friend of his. Meanwhile (10 months ago), I noticed that twitches where appearing in several muscles, especially on the legs and arms. I had an appointment with the neuro-surgeon and I told him about that. He made a clinical observation, with no fasciculations but with hyperreflexya on the left knee and nystagmus (I have nystagmus since I was a child). With the description of fasciculations he was frightened and he told me to make a MR and an EMG, and to make it quickly. That's when I began to look for fascuculations on the internet and I found the same thing that most of you: lots of stuff about ALS. I began to become frightened. I made the MR and, when I made the EMG, the neuro-physiologist told me that I had nothing, that I was perfectly normal and that she would be very surprised if I had that at my age.I saw the neuro-surgeon again and he was much more relaxed, but he recommended me to see a good neurologist to see what this fasciculations were about. Meanwhile, I was still scared: what if the neuro-physiologist was wrong? What if...? You can imagine that. I also had very painful muscles all over the body (not exactly cramps).I then had an appointment with the neuro, who observed me and was very clear in his statements: I had no weakness, no atrophy, my nystagmus was a very normal one, I had a "perfect muscular system" and no sign of ALS. And a reassuring EMG. He also told me that it wasn't fasciculations, but myokymia. He gave me Xanax to be more relaxed, and indeed I was. He also gave me magnesium and the pains stopped. But I was still thinking "what if...?" from time to time. I was a little bit concerned about not knowing what this was about. I then discovered this site, and found lots of information about BFS, lots of reassuring posts of people sufrering from the same thing, and lots of coincidences with what the neuro had said.That's when I began to be really more relaxed about this. The problem was that, meanwhile (last november) my mother died suddenly from a heart attack, which, appart from all the rest, scared me again. I was feeling bad, with a sense of heaviness in the chest and some frightening extra-systole. My GP had me make some heart tests and it was all ok, and that was probably (I hope) due to anxiety. Meanwhile I was feeling much less the fasciculations. I thought that I was always moving from neurologic to cardiac concerns, and I became a bit more relaxed. Indeed, I had a period with no heart concerns and with very rare and not very concerning fasciculations. It was ok. It was a period when I became more organized, being again capable of doing well the lots of work (PhD dissertation, school administration, etc.)I have to do and being efficient. However, in the last two weeks (maybe) I began to feel more fasciculations again (all over the body) and I became more concerned again. It's true that I'm in a period in which I'm not being very capable of organizing my work, being desperate about it and not sleeping very much. But still... the questions came back again. What if...? Why do I have this? I have strong reasons not to think about ALS (no weakness at all, appart some tired muscles on some days), but...? I can't stop looking at my hands and even comparing them with several friend's ones... I came back to this forum which is always reassuring, but I also looked for "benign fasciculations" on Google Advanced Scholar. And there I found two or three scientific articles telling about people with normal EMG's and only fasciculations who, later, developped ALS. So, I became a little bit concerned again. The truth is it also said that, in any case, the onset was very fast, and that people were developping all the symptoms very quickly. So, if, one of this days, I fall into the thing, I will now. I feel no weakness (just tired) at all for now. And no pains in the muscles, appart from the normal ones.So, what do you think? Is there a chance for our benign fasciculations not being so benign, as some articles seem to say?Thanks. Sorry for my english.Carlos
 
Let me preface this by saying you have BFS, nothing more.OK--now these studies have been brought to the attention of the board many times and debated ad nauseum. I will not rehash the statistics that were thrown around or the various arguments. Suffice it to say no one on this forum has ever developed ALS or MS (as far as we know.) No one here is an expert in the field of ALS. We only know what we know through lessons from others and experiences with our own neurologists. Can we say definitively that no one diagnosed with BFS will ever develop ALS? No. ALS can strike anyone. Therefore, BFS does not make us immune, just as it does not make ALS more likely. They are two completely different entities.I am sure it was not your intention, but this kind of question, and mention of such frightening studies, can be quite inflammatory on the board. BFS (as you know first hand) comes with quite a bit of anxiety. Case studies are usually conducted due to some anomaly. I think we can rest assured that ALS does not usually present with body-wide fasciculations. This is a fact that most of our neurologists have repeated.
 
Se habla ESPAÑOL , YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Viejo Carlos, cómo estás compadre!, Por fín alguien más en el foro que habla Español.Antes que nada, Carlos, bienvenido al foro. Espero que como primer paso trates de calmarte un poco, entiendo perfectamente tus preocupaciones e intranquilidad, pero permíteme aclararte todas tus inquietudes.Loco, en serio, necesito que me parés bolas y ME PONGAS TODA TU ATENCIÓN en lo siguiente :1. NO TIENES ELA. Punto final. Tuviste un exámen clínico óptimo y tu electromiografía es completamente negativa, lo cual en cristiano significa que NO HAY ABSOLUTAMENTE NINGUNA POSIBILIDAD DE TENER ELA. Siempre recuerda que las fasciculaciones NO SÓN EL SÍNTOMA CARACTERÍSTICO de la Esclerosis Leteral. La ELA , como tú bien lo sabés es una enfermedad de ATROFIA Y DEBILIDAD CLÍNICA MUSCULAR, NO DE FASCICULACIONES.Tus fasciculaciones obviamente son de origen benigno y 11 meses son prueba más que suficiente. 2. En este momento lo que más te está afectando viejo Charlie no son las fasciculaciones, es tu ansiedad relacionada con pensar en que tienes una enfermedad incurable, pero te tengo buenas noticias, una ves trabajes en eliminar tu ansiedad, verás cómo tus síntomas benignos van mejorando con el tiempo. Te sugiero, si puedes, que asistas a un siquiatra experto en el manejo de la ansiedad. Eso fué lo que realmente me sacó de un *beep* INFIERNO que viví por unos meses. Tranquilo viejo que tdodo va a mejoarar para vós, te lo digo yo que yá pasé por ésto y estoy DEL PUTAS,super recuperado y gozándemela toda. Mis síntomas han mejorado por lo menos un 90%, así que relájate.3. Consejos Prácticos. Trata de poner tu mente en otras cosas, haz ejercicio físico, lleva una dieta balanceada y si puedes suprimir el café te puede ayudar. Una cosa básica, tratá de dormir por lo menos 8 horas diarias, te va a sentar bien.4.NO BUSQUES MÁS INFO EN LA RED. PUNTO. Cierra yá el circulo vicioso de llenar tu cabeza con información FALSA, o que por lo menos no se ajusta a tu realidad, cambia un poco los hábitos que exacerban tus preocupaciones y el PC pueder ser tu enemigo, por ahora.5.Se optimista y positivo, el SFB (or BFS) mejora SIGNIFICATIVAMENTE con el paso del tiempo, especialmente si logras manejar adecuadamente tus estrés y ansiedad.6. Loco, de que país eres?7. Cualquier cosa YO SOY EL PATRÓN DEL FORO, así que mándame un mensaje privado si tienes alguna duda.8. Acerca del artículo que leíste, permíteme aclararte algo, cuando un paciente de ELA cree que su primer síntoma fueron las fasciculaciones, usualmente está equivocado, SIEMPRE al realizarle un exámen clínico aparece algo anormal , y te lo digo con absoluta certeza(hablé con por lo menos 15 neurólogos amigos míos y TODOS me dijeron lo mismo, hey no tengo la culpa estoy en la Industria Farmacéutica) 9. Si el Xánax te sirve, úsalo por un tiempo.Nada que temer.Compadre, tranquilo que vas a estar muy bien,Eduardo
 
For those of you wondering what did I posted?Fellas, Im not guilty of you missing your Spanish 101 classes at high school; seriously , you all preferred a green , juicy, fabulous and amazing MEGA JOINT over learning our beautiful spanish language.Sooooooooooo sorry.BTW, I find the cure to BFS!, its all on the reply to Carlos.Lesson : IF YOU WANT TO LEARN SPANISH, DONT SMOKE WEED!!.Bye,Eduardo
 
Ed you are so full of kaka. :p Carlos- you will be OK - you've gone through a lot so give yourself a break!!Don't pay attention to the exceptions or a few ambiguous studies where the data is not clear. You have more of a chance of being struck by lightening than getting ALS (look it up - here there is a whole discussion about it if you do a search). Explain to your adviser (profesor/el hefe) that you need a break then take a break even if it is just a few days. Go on a vacation, visit friends, family, whatever makes you relax and feel good. Remember that when you lose someone close to you, it always make you question your own mortality which may include questioning your own personal health. Maybe this questioning is nature's way of letting us know we need to enjoy our life?As far as fasics being benign - most here that have had them for a long time would agree that while they are extremely irritating and sometimes freaky, they are, however, still benign. Your neuro is the best to ask about this as he is trained in the presentation and progression - and you are already cleared by yours, right? DO not make yourself crazy over some fasics; you are a graduate student so making you crazy is the job of your primerio profesor.
 
Ed,Puedo hablar un poco espanol....pero solo un poco. Cuando yo estaba joven y estupido, yo estaba casado a una cubana (12 anos pasado). Ella hablo' mucha mierda en espanol y era importante a mi que yo le entende. Yo se estar facil a ver que no puedo hablar mucho espanol, pero por un "Gringissimo" como yo.....I do ok :)However, I did blow-off high school spanish.Take care,Gary
 
My dear Becky, Sue and Mishandl,I was talking about goodlooking ONLY Women.If the topic were beautiful,smart, sensitive, caring,adorable, fun, dedicated, excellent moms, sincere...women....OBVIOUSLY I would have mention the Jersey Ladies as No. 1, everyone knows that the Jersey ladies are the closest to pure perfection on earth.Now that Im on Flattering Mode, for all you beautiful women on the board, thanks you so much for making this place so much better . You are all so special, honestly ; and thats the reason you have BFS; you know what ? I really think BFS is meant for truly unique people, you need to be so in love with your existence and to be very sensitive so maybe our nerves get temporary out of whack.Again, Thank you Ladies on the Forum. You are the true blessing of this place.Keep you spirits up.Eduardo
 
ja ja ja jaMe encantò leer en español por primera vez en este foro. Yo soy de Argentina y por saber poco ingles muchas veces me quedè con ganas de ayudar a alguien con algunas frases màs amplias.Anyway. thank you bfsforum.com
 
Hey qué tal viejo Morzani,Entonces , eres de Argentina, muy bien. Viejo, aquí en el foro no hay ningún problema en que no manejemos perfectamente bien el Inglés; lo verdamente importante es que postées y nos compartas tu valiosa experiencia.Yo tampoco lo manejo al 100% pero creo que me hago entender. Aquí somos bastantes miembros cuya lengua materna no es el Inglés, pero con toda seguridad los demás miembros comprenden esta limitación.Translation ( I dont want to be un-polite to the non-spanish members)So you are from Argentina, good. Here on the forum theres no problem at all with not having a perfect english; what really matters is that you post and share with us your valuable experience. I dont have a perfect english either, but I think I make myself understood; here we have plenty of members whose native language isnt english, but with absolute certainty all the other members understand this situation.Que gusto saludarte Morzani, los mejores deseos,Eduardo
 

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